Experience:6-10g Red Maeng Da - Minor Dissociation and a Peculiar "Nod"

I've been in love with kratom since I first started using it this year. That beautiful warmth and comfort—mental and physical—that the opiates grant, all without the risks and dependence. As perfectly comfortable for spending hours doing nothing as it is for going out and being social, or doing some simple work. Whatever you choose to do, it seems to improve, all while in a headspace that doesn't feel high or otherwise unlike one's usual self. I use it infrequently to maintain a lack of tolerance: perhaps twice a week at most.

With higher dosages I notice some interesting effects which seem to be particular to my experience, to some extent. One time when I did a high dose, in darkness, staring at a patterned surface would produce swirling organization of the pattern which would reset on double-take: strictly two-dimensional. Another time produced mild visual drifting after staring at an object. I'm pretty sure this might have something to do with the mild visual disconnection kratom induces, and it perhaps might be related to the dissociative mindset I seem to have since experimenting with dissociatives (cannabis, for example, has had a totally different, more psychedelic character to it since this experimentation).

I get the opiate "nod" from a solid dose of kratom almost every time- that beautiful half-sleep where your ideations realize as semi-lucid dreams, and wakefulness and sleep don't seem so separate. Usually I use this to explore past memories vividly, or fantasize, always in that hypnagogic visualization space and never perceived as actual vision, but once, the "nod" was distinctly different. It seemed totally out of my control; random objects flying in a rapid circle in a void, whenever I closed my eyes. It wasn't uncomfortable, but bizarre. I've assumed it's just a hypnagogic peculiarity.

Kratom is a really great natural substance, and I think there might be more to it than the "opiate" it's frequently understood to be.

Submitted by - Hesychasm

• Physical euphoria - "That beautiful warmth and comfort—mental and physical—that the opiates grant"
• Cognitive euphoria - "That beautiful warmth and comfort—mental and physical—that the opiates grant"
• Drifting - "Staring at a patterned surface would produce swirling organization of the pattern which would reset on double-take"
• Internal hallucination - "Random objects flying in a rapid circle in a void, whenever I closed my eyes. It wasn't uncomfortable, but bizarre. I've assumed it's just a hypnagogic peculiarity."