Experience:4-HO-DET (20 mg, oral) - Tripping for my birthday

It was my birthday party at my best friend house, I brought some 4-HO-DET, we were 9 at the party. Me and 3 of us wish to try the substance, there were J ( 20 years old) that already experience psychedelic but only in party, she never do it in house that took 20mg, U ( 18 years old) that is my best friend that never experienced any psychedelic took 20mg, I ( 19 years old) took 20mg and M ( 17 years old) that never experienced psychedelic too was a bit afraid of taking the same amount of us, so she took 15mg.

T+0:45 - Start feeling tingling and warm sensation for all of us

T+1:00 – Closed eyes visuals appears and the environment starts breathing for all of us

T+1:30 - Visuals are a bit more intense than my last trip with 1P-LSD, visual drifting with a heavy breathing and flowing, I start yawning a lot and that excessive yawning will last all the trip long (It seem that I was the only one affected by the excessive yawning), I started to laugh to nothing, I laugh alone for at least 10 minutes.

T+2:00 - M start to get stuck in a thought loop about the moon that smile to her and U start to have a déjà vu that I noticed later too, we were all feel bliss, loving each other

T+2:20 - I sat on the carpet alone in the room to make the most of the feeling when I touch the carpet and be amazed of how beautiful the close eyes visual were, they could be geometric but some time I saw my closed eyes visual melting and color mixing together. I saw many times fractals like Mandelbrot's fractals.

T+2:30 - At this moment our head space was really psychedelic with some spark of clarity make talking to each other and watching my other friends drunk really fun

T+2:40 - Feel really warm even outside with an average temperature of 10°C, I smoke some cigarettes with U, M and J and some other friends and it feel really weird the warm sensation intensifies and some tactile sensation enhancement

T+3:00 - The head space became less psychedelic, easier to handle for I and J, feel a mild body load when I sat or lie on a couch. I and U feel intense wave of physical and cognitive euphoria

T+between +3:00 and +3:40- Start to feel sad, the trip intensifies but It was still pretty manageable and didn't last long. I notice that on white wall I can saw the same pattern that I saw when I close my eyes. I also noticed after image with bright elements

T+4:00 - Start to feel the come down, I alternate between psychedelic head space and clear head space, but the clear head space start to be more and more presents, and visual tend to be less intense

T+5:00 - No more visual drifting, some mild breathing effect are still there, and closed eyes visual less intense, I tried to sleep even if I feel still pretty energetic and I don't feel the need to sleep I feel pretty tired

After the wake up, no more effect for all of us

I wasn't all the time with theme so we didn't a reunion to talk how was there trip

They noticed, some color shifting, déjà vu, M had some external hallucination like shadow people and report seeing faces and eyes everywhere during the trip, and we're all stuck at some time in a thought loop

TLDR: I experienced 4HO-DET with 3 friends at my birthday party, I was a really good time for all of us, we were all feel bliss, really visual trip. I didn't expect the psychedelic head be that much present but that was only the case for the first half of the trip, the second half was an easier head space and my friend who take the smaller dose has seen shadow people

Submitted by GIGA30

• Thought loops - "M start to get stuck in a thought loop." "we're all stuck at some time in a thought loop."
• External hallucination - "M had some external hallucination like shadow people"
• Drifting (melting, breathing and flowing) - "Visuals are a bit more intense than my last trip with 1P-LSD, visual drifting with a heavy breathing and flowing"
• Geometry - "they could be geometric but some time I saw my closed eyes visual melting and color mixing together. I saw many times fractals like Mandelbrot's fractals."
• Pattern recognition enhancement - "report seeing faces and eyes everywhere during the trip"
• Déjà vu - "U start to have a déjà vu that I noticed later too"
• Laughter fits - "I started to laugh to nothing, I laugh alone for at least 10 minutes."
• Tactile enhancement - "I sat on the carpet alone in the room to make the most of the feeling when I touch the carpet"
• Excessive yawning - "I start yawning a lot and that excessive yawning will last all the trip long (It seem that I was the only one affected by the excessive yawning)"
• Temperature regulation suppression - "warm sensation for all of us" "Feel really warm even outside with an average temperature of 10°C"